I was wondering who is more foolish on this topic: Kaushik Basu, or Arvind Kejriwal.
I've concluded that Kaushik Basu has at least SOME CHANCE of being right – once in 50 years.
But Arvind Kejriwal has ZERO chance of being right on the topic of corruption, even once in 1000 years.
I am amazed that "educated" people have bought in so eagerly into the world's most useless agenda against corruption:
a) Lokpal
b) Pay MPs Rs.25,000 per month (at current rates)
c) Continue with the government's existing role in things like education (just make it decentralised – whatever that means).
I award the prize for GREATEST IGNORANCE on the topic of corruption to Arvind Kejriwal.
To cleanse his mind (if he is willing) he can read this simple summary of
Chanakya's SOPHISTICATED AND BRILLIANT views on corruption and how to eliminate it.
And if he is interested, he can follow up by reading BFN. I've personally suggested that to him, and am happy to explain.
Being honest is SIMPLY NOT A sufficient condition for doing well for the country. That's a bare minimum. Then comes knowledge. Deep knowledge.
Chanakya had it. I don't see ANYONE on India's political stage today who has anywhere close his depth of knowledge.
Arvind Kejriwal's party's promises
This is what Arvind is promising:
People will decide the price of essential commodities.
Right to Reject and Right to Recall.
Everyone will be provided with good education and good healthcare services.
Farmers will be given good price for their produce.
I shudder at India's fate should Arvind's "government" get elected.
Arvind, I request you to STOP your blind plunge into politics without first understanding the BASICS of good policy.
You are a good man but you are HOPELESSLY confused.
You will totally ruin India. Unless you stop and think.
Stop this madness.
Addendum
There is still a chance for Arvind to reform, but I have a feeling he's DELIBERATELY not interested in engaging with me.
A lot of his wellwishers have personally asked him to contact me, to read my book. He has stayed away. He doesn't want to be told that he is DRASTICALLY WRONG!
If he continues down this path I will have no option but to declare him one more public enemy of India, along with Congress and BJP.
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#India’s MOST FOOLISH man on the topic of corruption: Arvind Kejriwal http://t.co/GRTUJtdv #currentaffairs
India’s MOST FOOLISH man on the topic of corruption: Arvind Kejriwal http://t.co/4Mwbl5SD
Brilliant sire :) @sabhlok #India’s MOST FOOLISH man on the topic of corruption: Arvind Kejriwal http://t.co/Iwe9uuEj #currentaffairs
#India’s MOST FOOLISH man on the topic of corruption: Arvind Kejriwal http://t.co/GRTUJtdv #currentaffairs
In fact at times I get worried with IAC and particularly the young people. They seem to be lost. Most of them follow Arvind Kejriwal mindlessly. He is the new rock star for them. I hope the ordinary uneducated people is more clever than our young educated people and will reject the Kejriwal socialist clowns. Let them vote for corrupt socialist clowns than honest socialist clowns.
Honest socialist are 1000 times more dangerous than corrupt socialist.
Let India stick with corrupt socialist until a liberal party like FTI comes in picture.
I maintain Kejriwal is more dangerous than a corrupt BJP or Congress. His honestly will destroy India.
This so rediculours comment by you. As i have already made a comment you are only good policy maker not a politcian. You dont have enough guts to change india and no guts to fight for election. Atleast arvind is rising corruption issues, he is fighting on the streets. Can you do it? No, i know you can not do it because you like australia your comfortable job your security their, like others who dont want to come back in india. You people can not survive even a month in the corrupt system of india whereas on the other hand kejriwal is fighting like a true leader. I can call you Baton ka sher ussse aage nothing.
Bhanu
There is a saying: Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. In Hindi we say: don’t jump into a well just because someone is jumping into a well.
I’ve been trying to reform India’s governance in a systematic way. I don’t jump into politics and contest elections just to win a seat or to score a point. I must be able to change the system in the right direction, else it is pointless.
And it is CRUCIAL that I speak the truth. There are mostly only mindless blind fools and sheep among the “educated” classes in India. They have never bothered to understand what is wrong with India and will refuse to do so even after I keep repeating things 1000 times.
The funny thing is I recently discovered that Chanakya, India’s great and famous man, has been saying MOST of the things I talk about. It is a shame that Chanakya is not taught in India. But he is 100000 times smarter on policy issues than Arvind Kejriwal and the MINDLESS youth (like you) who have assembled around him.
So by pointing out that YOU are wrong, and Arvind is wrong, but that Chanakya is right, I’m showing you your ignorance, and giving you a chance to fix your own personal ignorance.
Leave Arvind aside, since he does NOT read anything. He has been influenced by hardcore socialists and will not read Chanakya.
But you can.
So pl. do so.
Ignore me. You can (in your DEEP ignorance) curse me or say whatever you like. But at least read Chanakya. That dead man wrote some superb things and transformed the India of his times.
Assuming I’m a fool, you can ignore me, but at least read Chanakya? Do that.
It might help you.
My job is to change ONE person at a time. If you change, then India will change, too.
s
ohh bhanu boy.
Come join this group on FB, it should be easy to discuss.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/demandfreedom/
No point in contesting elections in a zeal. What is the policy agenda of Arvind Kejriwal? What is his blueprint for the country? Without that, even if his party wins a few seats in Loksabha elections, they will not be able to make a dent in a system which is devoid of accountability and is in fact rotten.
India needs a revamp of the whole system. And for that to happen, a motley crowd of few MPs- how so well meaning they may be- will not help.
FTI has dealth with this issue in details: http://freedomteam.in/?file=faq
People (leaders) need to unite
Munish
Arvind’s hodge-podge agenda is linked here:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/12-things-that-arvind-kejriwal-s-party-promises.html
It is 100 per cent socialist. I don’t see any interest in liberty, or a smaller role for government.
s
How can an IIT graduate be this close minded and borderline dumb? Is he just mouthing these socialist policies just to get votes? Being populist? Is he smarter than we give him credit for? After all, he is no longer an activist but a politician now, and has to play to the gallery(rural votes)
If he’s trying to be a run of the mill politician, they why enter politics?
Hi Sanjeev,
Can you please explain me which point of arvind made you think that he his preaching socialism. And what would be your first point of agenda if you were to be in place of arvind.
And arvind has still not come up with his full agenda. He will be coming out on Nov 26th. You also can send your suggestions to him. Arvind is quiet open to new ideas. Did you try to approach arvind ever and convince him on liberalism.
Raghvendra
I’ve pointed out his more socialist points. Fixing prices, “providing” education, etc. NO change to existing socialist policy.
I’ve met him, and also written 10 times to him. No. From all indications he is DEFINITELY NOT open to new ideas. I’ve rarely come across someone so closed to learning.
s
Hi Sanjeev,
Arvind’s main goal is to remove corruption. DOnt you think once corruption is out, it will on its way lead to enough development in the country. After lokpal was passed in singapore, there was so much development happend in singapore.
Providing free education to all is even the policy maintained in Germany too. Dont you think germany has’nt progresses enough.
Hi Sanjeev,
You have listed these points in your own blog,
1. State funding of elections — for his party, he his not charging any one for party seat. He said people s donation will be used for the same.
2. Remove all limits to electoral funding
3. Ensure the MOST RIGOROUS disclosure requirements for political donations
– he has told he will put all the funding details in his websites. and he will do it
4. Pay the politicians VERY WELL.
– initially he said 25k will be paid.But he has removed that clause. I guess he has realised this
5. Elect politicians who promote classical liberalism
–this is left to the people of india.
Raghavendra
I have deliberately and pointedly stated that Arvind is foolish on the topic of corruption. In brief, he doesn’t understand the CAUSE of corruption.
Please note that Lokpal is NOT a solution to corruption. When you talk about Singapore, please note that it used the world’s MOST liberal economic policy and it paid its politicians and bureaucrats VERY highly. Arvind doesn’t understand either economics or governance. He is very foolish to make claims to solve India’s problems without the kind of understanding that Chanakya had over 2000 years ago.
Arvind is nothing but Nehru Mark II. He will bring RUIN to India, not good governance.
s
I don’t get your point. Are you saying Arvind is SOMEHOW promoting good policy? The answer is NO.
Though, it is the luxury of a free country that you can criticize any one but a due credit must be given to KEJRIWAL for his ferocious attempt to change the STATUS QUO. but the basic problem with Kejriwal is that he and his comrade LACK VISION and have NO PROPER IDEOLOGY. You can not weed out corruption just by identifying one or other . He must know that main menace is not the corruption and politicians but the ideological framework around which whole Indian polity revolves. And in order to get rid of theses problems we must EVOLVE NEW IDEOLOGY.
I’m making clear that if Arvind continues spouting socialist ideas, I will begin a campaign to oppose him tooth and nail. I was FORCED by socialists to leave India. All socialists think they are doing the right thing, but they only INCREASE corruption.
I will not have it FURTHER DESTROYED by socialists.
We want liberty in India and we will HAVE it.
Let Arvind read my work, and read Chanakya’s work. Then we can talk. Else he has now crossed the line into the DARK side, where the enemies of India are found: the socialists.
s
Hi Sanjeev,
The monthly wage of MPs and MLAs would go up from the current Rs 33,000 to, say, Rs 3,50,000, with proportionate increases for Ministers. There will also be an annual adjustment based on the cost of living. Simultaneously, all perquisites and indirect benefits will be abolished
A system of performance bonuses for all MPs and MLAs will be introduced:
For every 1 per cent increase in per capita GDP growth beyond 5 per cent per annum, all our representatives will get a one-off 5 per cent bonus.
For every 1 per cent permanent reduction – defined as a reduction sustained for two years – in the number of people below the poverty line, MPs and MLAs will get a permanent 1 per cent increase in their base salary. Once the negative income tax system is fully established, the entire reduction in poverty will be incorporated permanently into the base salary.
For every ten ranks that India rises on a sustained basis of two years in Transparency International rankings, there will be a 5 per cent one-off bonus.
There will be a permanent 20 per cent increase on base salary upon India’s becoming the world’s least corrupt country for two years in a row.
The sum of these bonuses will be limited to a total of 50 per cent of the base salary in any given year.
My view:
Above points are your ways to eliminate corruption. I agree for your point that the people’s representatives need to be paid heavily. But how much heavily is the question. I see your answers above. I am feeling like laughing at your points. As per you 3.5 lakh per month i.e 36 lakh per year. So to make 1 crore he has to work for 3 years. You know how much does an averge MLA earns per year. It is minmum 2 to 3 crore. I am speaking about the average MLA who has no ministerial power. Each MP is sitting on atleast 1000 crore rupees. Do you think that these people will work for the nation just because of salary hikes of 5 to 10 percent. i.e just impossible
Do you think not by punishing these ministers(through Lokpal) and just by giving mere 36 lakh per year (that too without incentives) will make these corrupt moral less ministers into sadhus. This would be the biggest joke of the century. One of my far relative who was in association with janardhan reddy has made 500 crores. My uncle is not in politcs. Just imagine how much each ministers and peoples representatives have eaten.
And coming to electoral reforms. Arvind is suggesting all the points which you told. And you speak of socialist policy (state funding of election) in your own suggested electoral policy. Even germany which follows liberalism gives free basic education to all. Germany gives retirmental benefits to all the people of its countries. Irrespective of all these socialist poilices germany is growing. Each country has its own reasons for its growth stories apart from the stringest policies. Our countries economy stands basically on agriculture and service. Please do understand this
Hi Sanjeev,
I will take your electoral reforms exactly as you are suggesting. Let’s say you will contest and you will win also. So you are honest. Now you are getting 3.5 lakh per month salary. So what is the gurantee that you will not indulge in corruption now. Because any how as per you there is no body to check your corruption. So you will take huge salary and also indulge in big ticket corruption and make whooping 500 crore in 5 years. So for 5 years we the people don’t have control on you. And there is no body(lokpal or simlilar) to punish you as per your recommendation.
So even you ways are wrong!
I have no time to discuss. If you are going to DO something then we can do so. Else, the package of reforms I’ve outlined is very well researched and I stand by it.
R, I’m not wrong. You don’t understand the complete package. Sorry, can’t debate with those who don’t care to understand the whole package.
S, I guess that is why even arvind has not debated with you:)
R, I’m afraid you HAVEN’T read my work (e.g. BFN), haven’t understood what I’m saying, and will NOT do anything in life but indulge in idle debate. I can’t debate with the likes of you.
Arvind is a different matter. I’ve offered to explain things personally to him. He is deserving of my time. Not you. You may want to at least do me the courtesy of reading BFN and my other work before raising points that are fully addressed in the book.
s
Hi Sanjeev,
I have read your BFN half. And i am about to finish this within few weeks. And arvinds swaraj fully. I will read even arta shastra completly. And i will surely debate on this topic once i am done with everything. But mind you. Dont simply call arvind a fool.
Hi,
You cant take my simple critcization. i wonder how will you face 100 crore people:)
R, I have no problems with criticism at all. You are welcome to form your opinions about me, etc. Your opinion doesn’t matter till you are actually DOING something to make a difference. So I challenge you to read comprehensively, understand, then DO something.
On FTI we have extensive debates. I don’t debate much outside FTI and have no plans to do so. If there is a press conference that’s a different matter.
And yes, I do call a spade a spade. Arvind is a FOOL as far as his understanding of corruption is concerned. I must speak my mind. That’s my duty. If he listens, I can explain. If not, so be it.
s
Hi S,
BJP says it will bring back black money. They will not do it if they come to power. They are just using this tool for election campaigning.
Similary arvind has to use these socialistic steps in his election campaign. If he say he will remove reservation,subsidies then even single vote will not fall for him.
So I would say you still have lot of time to convince arvind.You can do so even when arvind comes to power.(may be or may not be)
India's MOST FOOLISH man… http://t.co/D17usRTJ
Who is this Bhanu…i think most negative person on this world.