It amazes me that so many "educated" Indians who claim to promote liberty are constantly deluded about communist BJP.
I've had no delusions about BJP since I know many of these guys personally from a long time. They are often even more socialist than Nehru.
Even as Congress is moving away from Nehru's legacy, BJP has taken ownership of Nehru's red flag and taken it well into the communist camp.
All economic reforms to date have come from Congress (Rajiv Gandhi's IT and partial trade liberalisation, Narasimha Rao's licensing liberalisation, and Manmohan Singh's recent introduction of modern administrative mechanisms in India's public administration – and more open FDI).
Not one major economic reform has ever originated in BJP. Only obstacles to reform.
Victor Mallet reports the views of Indian communists:
“The tragedy is that our prime minister has begun to worship the US,” said Sitaram Yechury, leader of the opposition Communist Party of India – Marxist. “Congress wants Indians to be slaves and foreigners to be our masters. We will not accept FDI [foreign direct investment] in retail. We will protest this decision till our last breath.” [Source]
Given this ongoing pathetic performance of BJP (e.g. Modi's racist comments) and BJP's communist buddies (and Modi's bans on books, plus almost certain involvement in mass murder), it is shocking that "educated" Indians constantly hype up Modi and BJP.
I'm sick of these communists and racists. What idiots – to link free trade and consumer choice (liberty) with "slavery".
Turning the basics of logic up side down won't get India very far. Just shows that dunces tend to become "leaders" in this up-side-down country called India. Merit is shunned. Dunces like Modi and Yechury are promoted.
With such intellectual midgets and bigoted pygmies as its leaders, the dreams many of us have for India will never materialise. India will remain poor and stupid. And the best Indians will leave, never to return.
The best Indians would rather work as second class citizens in the lands of the "goras" (this is not mine but MODI's characterisation), than as first class citizens in a country that is ruled by GOLD MEDAL IDIOTS.
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BJP and the communists are blood brothers. That’s not a surprise. http://t.co/kvbP5tw5 #currentaffairs #india
BJP and the communists are blood brothers. That’s not a surprise. http://t.co/VWd0q4IX
RT @sabhlok: BJP and the communists are blood brothers. That's not a surprise. http://t.co/AauGfadU
Atanu Dey was posting almost one article every 2-3 days on NitiCentral . He posted the article in favour of FDI in retail and no word from him for the next 8 days.
Coincidence? Maybe not.
This is one of the reasons I gave up on the BJP. I’m looking out for voting for Loksatta or even PPI or independents the next election, since FTI will not be ready.
Atanu Dey, despite his BJP leanings, is on the FTI Speakers Panel. I expect him to disavow BJP given its opposition to liberty.
Lok Satta is closely affiliated with FTI (not PPI!). While I don’t encourage anyone to contest elections without preparation, should LS contest, pl. vote for it.
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Not just economic reforms, even RTI was brought in by Congress.
But I guess staunch BJP supporters would counter-argue saying that, for being in power for 60 years thats very little reforms from Congress. If BJP had been the one in power for 60 years, they would have brought in even more reforms etc. etc.
Sanjeev, what about the recent arguments by some columnists(and Advani) that Walmart is not wanted even in US where therey have been lot of anti-Walmart protests and hence opening the retail to them here doesnt make sense.
see here for example
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Wal-Mart-not-even-welcome-in-US-Advani/articleshow/16520752.cms
BJP and reforms are fundamentally antithetical. The Hindu Mahasabha and precursors of BJP opposed even independence, just like communists.
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Advani’s colossal ignorance of basic economics precludes me from engaging in any discussion about his lameduck ideas.
Sometime back I came across this – ” Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Reforms “. It argues that the BJP-led NDA government under Prime Minister Vajpayee can claim to be the most economically-liberal administration in the history of independent India.
It quotes heavily from Columbia University economist Arvind Panagariya’s book, India : The Emerging Giant, published in 2008.
this article is TOTALLY OPPOSITE to this post!
end quote: “The shift in the growth rate from 6 percent to more than 8 percent during 2003-2007 must be attributed largely to these reforms.”
FULL ARTICLE : http://broadmind.nationalinterest.in/2011/04/27/ab-vajpayee-reform/
Here’s some excerpts :
On Privatization, Panagariya writes:
The Vajpayee government was keen on privatization as a policy, especially after it won a clearer mandate in the October 1999 elections. In January 2000, it carried out the first “strategic sale” by selling Modern Food Industries Limited to Hindustan Lever. Beyond some worker protests, the sale went smoothly. This emboldened the government, and Finance Minister Yashwant Sinha formally announced the adoption of a new privatization policy in the 2000-01 budget speech to the Parliament on February 29 2000.
On telecommunications, Arvind Panagariya writes specifically in his book that though Rajiv Gandhi is credited with the revolution “in the minds of many older Indians”, the reality is different:
The crucial step in bringing about the current telecommunications revolution was the New Telecom Policy (NTP) of 1999, which the government systematically implemented in early 2000s. The DoT did its best to sabotage the reform every step of the way. But luckily, the prime minister’s office took it upon itself to implement various components of the NTP. Among other things, the government separated the service provision and policymaking arms of DoT, with the former turned into a corporate entity known as Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL) in October 2000.
On the NDA government’s second term under Vajpayee commencing on October 13 1999, Panagariya writes:
The Vajpayee government proceeded to carry forward the reform agenda in a number of different directions, including international trade, foreign investment, insurance, telecommunications, electricity, roads, privatization and education. In terms of the reach of the reforms, this period matches the first three years of the Rao government. The shift in the growth rate from 6 percent to more than 8 percent during 2003-2007 must be attributed largely to these reforms.
The key point is the NDA government didn’t have carry out reforms in any of those areas – that’s not the platform on which they were elected to office, and nobody really expected the BJP to drive reforms on such a scale. The BJP-led NDA government carried out reforms willfully, not under duress and often defied its own constituency in the greater national interest.
Allwyn, neither Congress nor BJP are reform-oriented. Both are committed to ruining India. Both are DEEPLY socialist. Both want the government to do everything and in that process, to make corrupt money. That’s India’s fate.
I’m not here to compare these two, for there’s hardly anything to compare: both are BLOCKERS of India’s growth.
If you think BJP is great, then pl. enjoy the tamasha of racist Modi inflaming xenophobia. If that’s a reform oriented party then I rest my case.
Well done, Sanjeev, for calling out the morons that represent the BJP today – how any even semi-educated person can think that they represent “reforms” TODAY is beyond me. They are beyond hopeless – at least, the communists are very clear about what they represent, the BJP today does not even have that reforming feature.
Having said that, Allwyn’s post has a solid kernel of truth in the centre – the 1999-2004 NDA government at the centre was truly a reforming one, and can take most of the credit for India’s growth rate surging to 8%+ and the buildup in national level infrastructure. Vajpayee, Shourie, Yashwant Sinha and Jaswant Singh were all independent thinkers, not afraid of the RSS and the Gurumurthy types, nor willing to bow down to the atavists within the party.
Even today, Shourie has come out in public supporting FDI in retail, saying more reforms are needed and strongly denouncing his own party’s position.
Modi lost them the 2004 elections and the BJP has been in denial about this simple fact ever since – that all the good governance at the centre was trumped by the evil done in Gujarat.
Cheers
Supratim
I do know that Ashok Saikia (a great reformer) was JS to Vajpayee. I also know that Harsh Shrivastava (a reformer now in the Planning Commission) was Dy. Speech writer for Vajpayee. But one swallow does not make a summer. The clear sense I have is that although a number of policy improvements have been implemented, the country has not been taken along in the journey, and even most MPs of BJP/Congress are anti-reform. And BJP remained as corrupt as any other party. No real reform.
Anyway, we need a dramatic change in governance if India is to achieve its potential, and BJP is definitely not the party to do that.
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